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after working 19 years and your company sold to an investment firm and that didn't give you a heads up to change coming?

did you report any of this torment? file a complaint or sue the company?  did you at least voice your compalint with your dm and tell her how her treatment was coming across to you..?

and if you did put up with it for 20 months, why, oh why would you pick the worst time to draw a line in the sand?

sounds like you were counting on unemployment... maybe 40 or 50 months of ue to help you find your way?? Didn't you even check with the ue office before or, during the 2 weeks notice you gave to find out the elegability requirements?

if... you did none of these things, than it is apparent you had no "value" for your job or your security, and an employer might be lead to believe you have none for the company either...maybe you were considered dead wood that needed to be cut... maybe if you had "put up with it" a few more months or weeks, they would have cut your job and the ue benefits would kick in...

If you had worked for me and for whatever reason, i let you go, and i had any doubts as to the wisdom of my decision, Your lack of preperation and planning and concern would have confirmed my decision.

a job well done "can" be done cheaper by someone else and aparently, better than what your company thought you could do it for.

Pandora says ...

 Mr. Goldsmith,

My supervisors had been informed. They were all new to the company . They didn't know me from Eve. All they knew  of me were the awards on the wall at home office. They also knew I made more money than they were willing pay. My DM also knew I made more than she did. And I was prepared to spend a few months out of work if I had to . I also had my resume out and had a few promising interviews before I gave notice. I only posted this information to reveal myself to anyone with simular issues with investment firms. I did seek council on the matter (Hostile work enviroment) and it was discussed at great length before I decided  not to pursue the issue further. Sounds like you were in a bad mood yesterday. I'm glad you weren't my boss cause you sound very arrogant and a little above yourself. Maybe you should re-read your statement and take a moment to realize how you sound.  Don't assume I didn't  follow all the appropriate channels when it came to this situation, I did , but to sue a company for being ignorant  isn't my style. People who sue for this that and the other thing are just looking for monetary gains and revenge not for fairness. I choose to be fair  not ignorant. Hey! If I had worked for you and you really were the smart guy , you would have never let me go. I happened to be their biggest producer. Awards and all.  Pdjane                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

 I re-read it and it doesn't sound "that" bad...in comparrison.

If i were your boss and you were the top producer, you'd have been retired for the last 9 years and this wouldn't be an issue.

It's hard not to "assume" anything on a forum, you didn't really state too much to go on..

 

I did find myself in a similiar situation however where i made a lot more than the owner of the company and i did it in my spare time and made it look easy... this owner agreed to my terms from the very beginning and i laid them out clearly... i told him what i was willing to do and what his cut would be and was accurate within a few dollars every month. he should have been happy. I even got him some deals where i didn't take a cut and worked out his whole bs computer thing, got his people in line raised his fees to his other clients and, made them more happy about paying it.

and we got along great on a personal level but... he didn't like being the guy whith the designer education showing up for work 10 hours a day and dealing with all of the other stuff while i was out in the mountains soaking in a natural hot springs in the middle of january with a hot woman. I made about twice what he did and i guess his pride or ego took over or, he had a psychotic episode or something but he reneged on the deal and booted me out...

his business started to fail and he invited me back and i actualy went bakc, got him back on his feet and went back to the same thing and he booted me out again... (he wanted me to show up at the office a couple times a week but i agreed to once... than, he pushed me to show up every day and lol, that wasn't likely to happen)

I went to visit him a few years ago during a trip back east and he wass living in the basement of a house sharring it with 4 other guys lol and his business had finally failed... not only did he lose his business but he lost his drive and confidance.. there was nothing left of this guy but a pathetic shell of his former self...

ANyway, for you, this is probably the best thing that will ever happen to you if you can lose the poor me i got raped by corporate america attitude. this is your opportunity to shine and excell at the rest of your life... hell, so what if you lose everything, it may be good for you... it was for me. that's not saying, it isn't harder than hell to lose it... i went down fighting tooth and nail until i got to the point of losing everything i identified myself with...i was finally down to the core an dliterally lost everything...

I started over from scratch with $90.00, a old beat up  pick up truck, some blankets and general camping supplies (stove cooler of food) some clothes, ropes and basic tools and went camping in the wilderness of idaho for about 3 years... it was completely diferent than anything i had ever done and now, looking back am so greatful for the experience... it was truely memorable. but, it was a bitch losing it...something i'll never forget.

you just have to have the drive and persistance and energy and fortitude to get to the end of the tunnel... good luck.

 

Pandora

Shut up and sell something.  Everyone has issues.  So if you are looking for someone that has been in similar situations, WE ALL HAVE!  Sell a car, boat, cell phone, or shoes.  It doesn't matter.  You can always find a sales job if you are good. And it sounds like you are good.  If you are willing to take U.E. then be willing to scrape up all of those trophies and plaques and throw them in the trash.  Unless you are a good cook.  Then you can put them in a big pot, season them up, and feed the family with them.  They mean nothing now, and they lost their validity whenever the new guys came in.  Besides, they have a big pot of plaques of their own.  They don't care. 

Get your mind back right.  We perform better in situations that make most people fold. 

Don't fold.

Geez you guys are tough on pandora. I'm not saying you're wrong, she needs to get up and move forward and restore confidence in herself.

It's amazing to me in a way that she managed to stay in the same company in sales for so many years. There was a time when people worked for the same company until retirement. I'd guess that those days were pretty much over in the '80s. I can't think of one sales person (I'm in NY Metro area)  that has always had the same job with the same company. They've quit for better ops or have been victims of reorgs, downsizing, bancruptcies and buyouts. I've had job changes for all of the above. It sucks, the timing is never good when it's not by your choice. (although you were in a tough situation, it was your choice). Some of the forced job changes led to better companies and commissions too.

It's unfortunate for Pandora that she was so sheltered and probably loyal to one employer for so many years. Those days are long gone in the northeast. However you talk about 20 months of harassment, that's an incredibly long time to not realize you should be looking for a new job. Perhaps there were pension issues or something you didn't tell us? Perhaps where you are there are simply no other jobs? No competitors you can take your success to?

I didn't truly understand for a few years that sales was the profession not the company I worked for.